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I'm ready to spit nails. I wake up this morning and that's the first thing that I see. Holy freaking...*rubs head and tries to calm down* I know that you're angry enough about this, and hurt too. I know several people personally that are going to be hurt a great deal over this--one of them is in one of my classes. We were discussing this and hoping aganist all hope that some people would have the decency to do the right thing and think outside of their tiny little box. No, of course not. This is Utah. There was no hope from the beginning, but I feel better just because I did vote NO on it passing. Damn it, this isn't fair and isn't right and I'm so pissed off that something like this could get passed. Can't it get overturned, if enough people protest and do something about it? It's taking away the rights of people that have done nothing wrong. They aren't harming anything. The other thing that they are doing is harming somebody's sensibilities. Good grief, people! Get over it! Yes, it may offend you, but if you don't like it, look the other way. It doesn't directly affect you. There are enough people left in the world to overpopulate it.

*takes a deep breath and tries to calm down*



On the other hand, had a wonderful dance company come up from AZ to our campus. Nebellen. It was absolutely fantastic--I wish I could move like that, dance like that--but I have absolutely no dancing ability whatsoever and I'd flub completlely. Bleh. ^_^ A few of the dancers that I talked to were really sweet, though. This one girl kept on giving me hugs and telling me I was so nice and that we made it all worth it. She also wanted us to 'rush the stage' and get up there dancing. I think everyone was a bit too daunted and 800+ people rushing the stage? Ouch.... Wouldn't work. *laughs* But it was a lot of fun and I really enjoyed myself.

I did vote yesterday as well---Waited like an hour in the wrong line because I was pointed towards the wrong precinct, so then I had to go to another location and wait an hour to vote. But I feel better than I voted, even if what I really cared about didn't do a bit of difference. Except in my mind. *sighs*

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Date: 2004-11-03 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelonepig.livejournal.com
Everyone knew that it would pass - after all, it passed in 11 states, if I have my figures correct.

My big thing about it is that because it passed there are now going to be multiple law suits to the supreme court from each of those states to discuss the amendment. That could go either way. The amendment is not meant to take away any rights, just to define the term 'marriage'. The only "right" that it takes away is the right to have a union recognized by the state as a legal joining. But then again, that right was never recognized in the first place.

Personally, I'm all for it. On the other hand, we'll just have to wait for it all to play out and see what the supreme court thinks.

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Date: 2004-11-03 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishuu.livejournal.com
It does directly affect us.

I think the issue had been pushed too hard, too fast. People's natural reactions is to deny it - if they'd been SMART, they would have waited to an off presidential year so people could consider it.

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Date: 2004-11-03 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com
:) Yeah, I know you are. And I don't mean to harp on you or anyone that did agree with it. We are all entitlted to our own opinions. *hugs* I don't know anymore, you know?

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Date: 2004-11-03 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com
*tilts head to the side*

But they didn't deny it. They were all for it. The minority was aganist and has been aganist it for a long time now.

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Date: 2004-11-03 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aishuu.livejournal.com
It obviously wasn't the minority, or it would have passed.

I'm not against it, but I'm not FOR it. I'm relieved it wasn't on my state, because I don't want to decide.

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Date: 2004-11-03 08:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com
*blinks* lost me completely there...

the minority of voters was aganist it passing. And it passed.

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Date: 2004-11-03 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enogitna.livejournal.com
The Utah one might not have taken away any "rights" beside the term marriage, which is fine. The Ohio took rights away (even, like, hospital visitation) from not only homosexual unions but *any non-married union*. So, if I lived in Ohio, and my live-in boyfriend of two years got in a car accident, I wouldn't be allowed in the er with him.

Bizzarre....

O.o

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Date: 2004-11-03 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lazzchan.livejournal.com
Yeah, that is what annoys me so much... Utah couples didn't have hardly any rights to begin with .. and now this... it took away what little they already had.

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Date: 2004-11-04 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Just because someone is already denied the right does not justify denying it more.
If people had pushed to ban interracial marriages soon enough, that would be banned now. If people had pushed to ban the women's right to vote early enough, it would have passed. If people had pushed to ban ethnic groups from voting early enough, that too would have passed.

Furthermore, Utah's amendment DOES deny any sort of right on par with marriage rights until they are married according to the Utah definition. If someone with a Civil Union were to be hospitalized in Utah, the other party would have no rights from that Union. In my opinion, Utah and other states are setting themselves up as safe-havens for deadbeat people who didn't get their obligations sealed in a formal marriage.

As for the purpose of marriage being to procreate... there would be an AWFUL LOT of marriages invalidated because that isn't the plan of the people involved. Isn't there more to it than making babies?

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